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2007-05-20T09:26:58Z

Poirierg: /* [http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel] */

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
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<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
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<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
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<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
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<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
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<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
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<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need
to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
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<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries
randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every
week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
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<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional
help immediately for the mental illness that either
1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc or
2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
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<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
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<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
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<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
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<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
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<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
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<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
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<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
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<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
(if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
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<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on
the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try
that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:10:18PM -0400, Dave Dodge wrote:
> IA64 compilation is an ongoing research project.

Which is what leaves me always wondering where on earth (or actually far
away from earth) Intel engineers left their brains when designing
IA64...
Technology for the next century. As in we will get it to work properly
somewhen in the next century...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Tobias Damisch wrote:
> Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > MPlayer still lacks "fairies" support to invent the pixels in between,
> > needed to get a truly HD picture.
>
> Just get latest SVN and recompile with:
>
> --enable-fairies
>
> Then try adding -vf fscale=1600:1200 (or any other resolution you
> might desire) to your command line.

Gentoo's latest mplayer ebuild is apparently an SVN snapshot from
08/10/2006 and doesn't seem to include a fairies USE flag for
compilation. Was fairies support added after that date, or is the
ebuild missing a USE flag?

Grant
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
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<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
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<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

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2007-05-20T09:23:28Z

Poirierg: /* #mplayer */

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need
to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries
randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every
week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional
help immediately for the mental illness that either
1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc or
2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
(if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on
the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try
that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Tobias Damisch wrote:
> Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > MPlayer still lacks "fairies" support to invent the pixels in between,
> > needed to get a truly HD picture.
>
> Just get latest SVN and recompile with:
>
> --enable-fairies
>
> Then try adding -vf fscale=1600:1200 (or any other resolution you
> might desire) to your command line.

Gentoo's latest mplayer ebuild is apparently an SVN snapshot from
08/10/2006 and doesn't seem to include a fairies USE flag for
compilation. Was fairies support added after that date, or is the
ebuild missing a USE flag?

Grant
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:22:25Z

Poirierg: /* #mplayer */

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need
to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries
randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every
week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional
help immediately for the mental illness that either
1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc or
2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
(if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Tobias Damisch wrote:
> Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > MPlayer still lacks "fairies" support to invent the pixels in between,
> > needed to get a truly HD picture.
>
> Just get latest SVN and recompile with:
>
> --enable-fairies
>
> Then try adding -vf fscale=1600:1200 (or any other resolution you
> might desire) to your command line.

Gentoo's latest mplayer ebuild is apparently an SVN snapshot from
08/10/2006 and doesn't seem to include a fairies USE flag for
compilation. Was fairies support added after that date, or is the
ebuild missing a USE flag?

Grant
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:21:30Z

Poirierg: /* #mplayer */

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need
to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries
randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every
week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional
help immediately for the mental illness that either
1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc or
2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Tobias Damisch wrote:
> Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > MPlayer still lacks "fairies" support to invent the pixels in between,
> > needed to get a truly HD picture.
>
> Just get latest SVN and recompile with:
>
> --enable-fairies
>
> Then try adding -vf fscale=1600:1200 (or any other resolution you
> might desire) to your command line.

Gentoo's latest mplayer ebuild is apparently an SVN snapshot from
08/10/2006 and doesn't seem to include a fairies USE flag for
compilation. Was fairies support added after that date, or is the
ebuild missing a USE flag?

Grant
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:20:05Z

Poirierg: split overly long lines

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need
to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries
randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every
week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Tobias Damisch wrote:
> Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > MPlayer still lacks "fairies" support to invent the pixels in between,
> > needed to get a truly HD picture.
>
> Just get latest SVN and recompile with:
>
> --enable-fairies
>
> Then try adding -vf fscale=1600:1200 (or any other resolution you
> might desire) to your command line.

Gentoo's latest mplayer ebuild is apparently an SVN snapshot from
08/10/2006 and doesn't seem to include a fairies USE flag for
compilation. Was fairies support added after that date, or is the
ebuild missing a USE flag?

Grant
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:16:20Z

Poirierg: /* [http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users] */

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Tobias Damisch wrote:
> Guillaume Poirier wrote:
> > MPlayer still lacks "fairies" support to invent the pixels in between,
> > needed to get a truly HD picture.
>
> Just get latest SVN and recompile with:
>
> --enable-fairies
>
> Then try adding -vf fscale=1600:1200 (or any other resolution you
> might desire) to your command line.

Gentoo's latest mplayer ebuild is apparently an SVN snapshot from
08/10/2006 and doesn't seem to include a fairies USE flag for
compilation. Was fairies support added after that date, or is the
ebuild missing a USE flag?

Grant
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:11:55Z

Poirierg: /* [http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel] */

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
A "spec" as readable as a sendmail configuration file doesn't make
matters better...

Måns Rullgård
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:08:17Z

Poirierg: split lines

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and
audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny
like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something
else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:07:13Z

Poirierg: spell, punctuation

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
We should have some nut samples.
Someone, (not me, I am lazy), should mux some free video and audio into NUT (or just grab a camera and film something funny like what happens with an egg in the microwave or something else where A-V sync can be seen).

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:05:07Z

Poirierg: NUT-devel URL

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/nut-devel NUT-devel]===

<pre>
we should have some nut samples
someone (not me iam lazy) should mux some free video and audio into nut
(or just grab a camera and film something funny like what happens with
an egg in the microwave or something else where AV synch can be seen)

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-20T09:03:31Z

Poirierg: NUT quotes

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> i talked with an ubuntu guy here
<KotH> and the biggest problem they have is that upstream is uncooperative
<Rathann> is it?
<KotH> from their perspective yes
<Rathann> I haven't seen any patches from anyone @ubuntu
<Rathann> nor bugreports, for that matter
<KotH> well, replace upstream by downstream and you get the same in green
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> the biggest outcome of a 2h+ discussion was that both sites want to work with each other, but think it's impossible
<Rathann> why do they think we're uncooperative?
<Rathann> (obviously we aren't)
<KotH> well... have a look at our history
<ShadowJK> Obviously uncooperative. Refusing to integrate with gstreamer, copying libraries randomly into source tree, breaking compilation with gcc2.96 on purpose, stuff doesn't compile with PIC, etc etc ;)
<KotH> yeah.. these points come into play too
<KotH> but that's a longer story
...
<ShadowJK> You know, I don't think those MPlayer developers even go to church of Xiph every week to worship a speedy emergence of Tarkin and ogm as the world dominating system
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

<pre>
<CHodapp> I have a program that's basically just generating RGB data for a framebuffer.
<CHodapp> I'm having major issues figuring out how to get this data to an encoded video.
<CHodapp> ffmpeg seems to only want some particular kind of YUV
<CHodapp> can I make mencoder handle raw RGB or raw YUV or anything like that?
<Commn> its easier to get it working with mplayer, to see what options you need
<Commn> mplayer file -demuxer rawvideo -vc rawbgr16
<Commn> etc
<Commn> then you can do mencoder with those opts
<Commn> or maybe even mplayer -vo yuv4mpeg , which ffmpeg probably accepts
<Commn> maybe even use a named pipe... mkfifo stream.yuv && ffmpeg -i stream.yuv -options ...
<CHodapp> ugh, documentation is so sparse on stuff like this
<CHodapp> ugh, why is this such a pain in the ass, with everything
<CHodapp> hrm, maybe rawrgb24 is what I need
<Commn> what part is sparse?
<Commn> if you tell us, we can improve mplayer docs
<CHodapp> well, not so much in mplayer as everything else I've tried... I was mostly searching on the web to get some clue of how I'd convert what kind of raw input to encoded output
<Commn> mplayer -vc help|grep raw
<Commn> will show what raw codecs mplayer has
<CHodapp> Yeah, I just now found that
<CHodapp> blah . . . Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and .video format 0x30323449.
<Commn> CHodapp : try -vc +rawrgb32 or whatnot
<Commn> just add + in front of it
<CHodapp> then it says the selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec
<CHodapp> tried sdl and x11
<Commn> if you can make a small sample of your file
<Commn> dd if=input of=output count=3 bs=1024k
<Commn> i can try to get it working in mplayer
<CHodapp> you might as well just take 640*480*3*100 bytes of data from /dev/urandom and try that... it will be functionally equivalent
<CHodapp> I'm using this right now: mplayer -rawvideo w=640:h=480 -demuxer rawvideo -vc +rawrgb24 -vo sdl temp.rgb
<Commn> whats random got to do with it ?
<CHodapp> it's just a bunch of bytes, completely unorganized, and mplayer needs to know the resolution
<CHodapp> it doesn't care about the contents
<CHodapp> something else is wrong, otherwise I'd be getting something on the screen
<Commn> if you give me some file i can help
<Commn> otherwise its hard to debug from here ;p
<CHodapp> www.uc.edu/~hodappcm/temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> not the most coherent video, but you won't find that out unless you get something on the screen
<CHodapp> it's 320x240, 10 frames worth
<Commn> what program generates it ?
<CHodapp> just something I'm writing. it's all procedural.
<Commn> i'm trying to remember why it defaults to i420
<CHodapp> i420? like yuv?
<Commn> ya
<CHodapp> definitely shouldn't be yuv...
<Commn> i know, mplayer -rawvideo is defaulting to that
<CHodapp> hmm
<CHodapp> still no output?
<Commn> CHodapp : something like this didnt work ? ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24
<CHodapp> couldn't find codec parameters...
<CHodapp> wait, I forgot the size
<Commn> haha more static
<CHodapp> what commandline did you use?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<CHodapp> wonder if my endianness is wrong...
<Commn> is it black frames ?
<Commn> ffplay -f rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr32 -s 320x240 temp2.rgb
<Commn> CHodapp : http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:0o70XuNe5QkJ:www.kingcot.eclipse.co.uk/unichrome/tvoutTest.html+mplayer+rawvideo+rgb&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=50&gl=us&client=opera
<Commn> CHodapp : there is an app on that page which generates rgb data
<CHodapp> yeah...
<CHodapp> by the way, I just sent you data from /dev/urandom
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===NUT-devel===

<pre>
we should have some nut samples
someone (not me iam lazy) should mux some free video and audio into nut
(or just grab a camera and film something funny like what happens with
an egg in the microwave or something else where AV synch can be seen)

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:37:29Z

Poirierg: re-inventing the wheel

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Reinventing the wheel certainly is annoying, but as long as all other
wheels are square...

Reimar Döffinger
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:34:44Z

Poirierg: idiots!

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

<pre>
as far as i can see this AVI file has _many_ video frames in each chunk, sick
how can a person be capable of using a text editor (and writing software) and
at the same time be such a complete idiot writing a program generating so
broken avi files ...

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:32:43Z

Poirierg: Beware the CIA!

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

<pre>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:57:36PM +0100, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Oh, I just saw it was in the original mail. I must have
> accidently deleted it while writing the answer. Sorry for
> the trouble.

no problem at all, better to ask then to miss some typos by the CIA/KGB guys
who edit all my outgoing and incoming mails

Michael
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:31:04Z

Poirierg: Please reboot michael in verbose mode

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

<pre>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:51:05AM +0200, oandrieu@gmail.com wrote:
> Michael Niedermayer [Wednesday 21 September 2005] :
> > cosmetics
>
> Yes. And ?

sorry, i should have been more verbose, maybe i should be restarted with -v
can someone of the admin(s) do that?

Michael
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:28:02Z

Poirierg: trim a bit

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu>

Modified Files:
ffmpeg-doc.texi
Log Message:
split string to avoid buffer overflow in native english speaking persons (fix suggested by The Wanderer)
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:27:30Z

Poirierg: buffer overflow!

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
Michael Niedermayer CVS <michael@mplayerhq.hu> hide details 7/16/05

Update of /cvsroot/ffmpeg/ffmpeg/doc
In directory mail:/var2/tmp/cvs-serv199

Modified Files:
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</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

Quotes

2007-05-15T09:26:11Z

Poirierg: reimar's lz0's draft

Here are some memorable quotes gathered from various MPlayer and FFmpeg related discussions. Beware of what you say, because it will be recorded, taken out of context and ridiculed!

==IRC Channels==

===#mplayerdev===

<pre>
<ods15> btw, gcc took 900mb of ram and then segfaulted for me when i tried to compile a 30mb C file :P
<ods15> that took about 20 minutes until it evantually gave out of mem error
<ods15> i should probably just write my own compiler than can do it in 0.05s and no ram...
<ShadowJK> can tcc compile it :)
<ods15> ShadowJK, heh i should've tried that
* ods15 just makes a sample file and tries now
<ods15> ahem, it did it in like 3 seconds and no ram :P
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid before linuxtag!
<poirierg> woops
<ods15> ...
<poirierg> great new ppl! I'm likely to get laid out before linuxtag!
<dalias> lol poirierg
<poirierg> budget cuts and stuff like that....
<dalias> poirierg, oh
<dalias> i read that as 'get laid'
<dalias> and i was like wtf tmi
<ods15> ja
<dalias> the word is 'laid off' btw, not 'laid out'
<delewis> haha.
<ods15> so, wait, great?
<poirierg> okay, I'm getting laid off
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> british is american with a sloppy accent, and much stupider curse words
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
</pre>

<pre>
<superdump> Welcome to ye Olde #mplayerdev Tavern. If yaoi 'n' free cola is what ye be lookin' far, we's got 'em! Yarr...
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> because you can't use x264
<superdump> why not?
<dalias> because the decoder is slower than gabu trying to get a girlfriend
</pre>

<pre>
<dalias> h264 is like matroska
<dalias> yes mmatroska is better than avi but it sucks still
<dalias> hes h264 compresses better than mpeg4 but it sucks still
<dalias> and the question is: is 15% compression gain worth 500% performance drop?
</pre>

<pre>
<poirierg> do you know the difference between God and dalias ? ;)
<dalias> god only tells you what's bad to do when you inhale from a burning bush
<dalias> dalias tells you what's bad all the time
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> i was once atacked by one of those beast
<reynaldo> i was 4 years old iirc
<reynaldo> those birds have almost 4 meters measured from the extremes of their wings
<reynaldo> i have some stories you wouldnt believe :P
<reynaldo> i dont remember meeting any chilean atacked by a condor besides me
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> i was once biten by a black widow too :P extremely hard to find spider
<reynaldo> nature has been trying to kill me since the day i born!
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> i though condors doesn't attack humans.
<reynaldo> they dont
<reynaldo> thats the weirdest part
<reynaldo> :P
<iive> well, then there is only one explanetion. you are not human.
* iive runs
<reynaldo> :P
<reynaldo> who knows
<reynaldo> maybe the karaoke filter is just the begining of my world domination plan
</pre>

<pre>
<reynaldo> why dont you work with me improving the filter then ?
<poirierg> reynaldo, because I don't want to steel the paternity of your little toy
<reynaldo> thats not my boy
<reynaldo> everyone an his girlfriend facing the same problem solved it the same wahy
<reynaldo> we can make something neater
<reynaldo> :)
<poirierg> your are calling me to become the girlfriend of you audio filter?
</pre>

<pre>
<ods15> i'm waiting for someone to send me brains tommorrow, not much to do until then
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> h264-in-mpeg is standardized since 2003. if hd-dvd does it differently it's because they're stupid ;)
<iive> they do. thay are
</pre>

<pre>
<KotH> Rathann: some nice quotes you have there :)
<Rathann> I know! ^_^
<Rathann> I've been collecting them for months
<KotH> and some i dont even remember typing ^^'
<Rathann> ^_^v
<Rathann> hehe
<Rathann> it's good to have logs
</pre>

<pre>
<phcoder> compiling svn:
<phcoder> allcodecs.c: In function 'avcodec_register_all':
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_DECODER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:67: error: for each function it appears in.)
<phcoder> allcodecs.c:253: error: 'ENABLE_DCA_PARSER' undeclared (first use in this function)
<phcoder> Sorry forgot to configure
<KotH> dont forget make distclean
<Rathann> don't forget to use your brain
</pre>

<pre>
<DonDiego> geez
<DonDiego> how many mistakes can you make in a single line of shell ..
<KotH> one per character
<DonDiego> i'm quite close ;)
<DonDiego> sundays after parties are not the best days for programming ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<cartman> <poirierg> cartman, you don't see smart girls if you only watch pr0n
<dalias> :)
<cartman> this is all I get for reporting quality pr0n bugs
<dalias> cartman, it's what you get for making statements about girls being stupid
<cartman> dalias: girls are stupid anyway
</pre>

<pre>
<ShadowJK> "I have to agree with Rich's supposed opinion here. It is beyond mad."
<ShadowJK> dalias, you've become quite efficient at flamewars, when you don't even need to participate anymore, people just assume what you were going to say :)
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> btw does somebody know a way to get the xvid bitstream syntax number
<iive> the number that xvid put to identify what bugs they had when encoding it.
<Rathann> rtfs?
<iive> i ask if somebody knows
<iive> this is if nobody knows
<iive> fucker
<rxt> hehe, nothing changed on mplayer while I was away :)
</pre>

<pre>
<snacky> ugh... you guys should see how polite superdump is being to lusers on #ffmpeg . it's really disgusting
<superdump> :)
<snacky> what is it with polite people?! don't you realize you are making the rest of us look bad?
</pre>

===#mplayer===

<pre>
* KotH wants a point and click solution... w/o the click
</pre>

<pre>
<Micksa> I'm reading about motion compensation
<Micksa> some of this is serious voodoo
<Micksa> I love it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> you're a free software pimp, Commn
</pre>

<pre>
<Jan_> mplayer has a number of command line options that is large enough to overflow a 32-bit variable.
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> Commn: yeh.. usa people usually have problem with foregin languages like british, australian or canadian. :)
</pre>

<pre>
<CarlFK> how many gig is an hour of raw DV ?
<DogBoy> like from a porno?
<CarlFK> right
<DogBoy> just how raw are we talking
<CarlFK> right from the cam corder's firewire
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> Commn: i read all of your wiki page and you forgot the final entry for "and seek professional help immediately
for the mental illness that either 1) made you want to follow all these steps for lazy, codependent fools on irc
or 2) that you WILL HAVE after faithfully trying to implement all these steps for a week"
<dtm> http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gaaallllgh.jpg that big dog is the cumulative laziness of a lot
of irc users the medium sized cat is Commn and the one watching, frozen in horror, is me
<dtm> now is that a normal response for a cat who has a self preservation instinct? i think not.
<dtm> HE LIKES IT!
<Commn> dtm : haha how long did it take to find that picture?
<dtm> Commn: somebody gave it to me and i kept it in a firefox tab all week coz it's so awesome coz
I KNEW IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT PURPOSE
<dtm> Commn: since you asked for feedback, i'll say that you're extraordinarily diligent and conscientious, and
the minority of that content is directly relevant to mplayer, and the majority is relevant to a "how to ask
questions the smart way" type of document if not being totally redundant thereof
<dtm> you are a gentleman and a scholar, and true patriot
<sacarasc> dtm is cute when he is adoring someone
<Commn> dtm : yes, its a modified 'how to ask questions' docu
<Commn> its lame tho
<Commn> i might delete it
<Rathann> dtm is such a clear case of user-support-induced insanity that I wonder why I am still sane sometimes...
</pre>

<pre>
<pianoboy3333> how long does mplayer take to compile?
<dtm> how long til the Point of Know Return?
<pianoboy3333> ...
<dtm> i'm sorry, was that question not as dumb as yours? oh well i tried!
<dtm> <3
<iive> dtm: you are starting to sound like me.
<dtm> Hmmmm.
* dtm commits honorable ninja suicide
</pre>

<pre>
<Erb> Does anyone know how to launch the GUI MPlayer in Linux via PHP (in Firefox)? I can run MPlayer scripts
in the background fine. I only need to do this for local videos for an application I'm building.
* dtm throws his brain into a blender in an attempt to comprehend Erb's question but fails sadly
</pre>

<pre>
<dtm> tell me what i want to know, and nobody gets hurst.
<dtm> hurt.
<Rathann> o_O
<dtm> i'm feeling like the giant cactus wants to be plastered in ascii screenshots
<dtm> I MUST COMPLY
<dtm> HELP ME DO THIS, Rathann
</pre>

<pre>
<DazBrum> what is the channel for developers
<-- DazBrum has quit ()
<dtm> lols
<dtm> i think i'll spare them from that
</pre>

<pre>
<netstat> how come mplayer eating memory
<netstat> it uses up to 90% cpu
<dtm> must be a good movie
</pre>

<pre>
<cappicard> o/~ Ich versteh euch nicht! o/~
<dtm> i'm sorry cappicard i dont speak satanic
<cappicard> LOL
<cappicard> it's just German
<dtm> yeah but not when they're singing it.
<cappicard> heh :)
<iive> cappicard: isn't it the same
</pre>

<pre>
<gioele> How come that I get a 35 minutes MP3 from a 5 minutes FLV video with -dumpaudio?
<Compn> aliens beaming audio into your mp3
<spuck00> ^^
<gioele> Compn: time to call SETI?
<Compn> yep
<Compn> if the aliens are peaceful, say hello
<Compn> if they are aggressive, look out!
</pre>

<pre>
* richard___ wonders why so many people join this channel for no apparent purpose
<rsk> they share the love of mplayer ;-(
<sacarasc> i have a purpose
<richard___> I wasn't implying that there's anything wrong with it :)
</pre>

<pre>
<rms> please tell me how to use dd_rescue
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> and what special will it do, except regular copy?
<KotH> RTFM
<rms> RTFM?
<KotH> the manual says everything oyu need to know
<KotH> read the fucking manual
<rms> oh ok
</pre>

<pre>
<iive> -dumpvideo
<LinuxCart> umm, that's a good idea. i'll try that.
<LinuxCart> thank you iive
<KotH> LinuxCart: if in doubt, it's iive's fault ;)
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxCart> how could this be explained?
<iive> it just another of dv misteries
<iive> it's KotH fault.
</pre>

<pre>
<LinuxMafia> how can i turn on language and sub
<KotH> RTFM
<LinuxMafia> KotH, using debian or freebsd?
<KotH> LinuxCart: doesnt matter, the FM is OS idenpedent
<LinuxCart> KotH: is RTFM some dialect to say it's iive fault :P
</pre>

<pre>
<ChaosR> MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2-DFSG-free <- my version
<ChaosR> is it out of date
<mjunx> of course
<mjunx> if it wasn't built like within an hour ago at any given time, it's usually out of date
</pre>

<pre>
<Fatsobob> trying to get mplayer to play win32 on ubuntu makes me want to shoot myself
<Fatsobob> mostly because ubuntu is all "totem this" and "totem that"
</pre>

<pre>
<Quintin> Is there any reason to use opengl vo device?
<sacarasc> nope
<Quintin> what's it there for?
<sacarasc> because you might want to use it...
...
<reimar> sacarasc: is there any reason why I should think what you just said makes sense? ;-)
<sacarasc> reason and what people want are not always the same
</pre>

<pre>
<Commn> iive : dont call mplayer users dumb
<Commn> not to their faces anyhow
</pre>

<pre>
<Agiofws> has anyone tried cinerella ?
<Agiofws> i think it great
<Kunalagon> I tried , and I thin 80 % does not work
<MisT_> never get compiled here
<Kunalagon> it has more bugs than my shelter
</pre>

<pre>
<voltagex> ArneB: at one stage I was able to do the maths to crack CSS on paper :P
...
<ArneB> voltagex: Obviously your mind and paper are illegal.
<ArneB> Better hand them over to the MPAA.
<voltagex> I think you could sneeze and accidentally crack CSS
<voltagex> yep
<voltagex> no more pencils
</pre>

<pre>
<danny500> how do I convert a ogm file into an mpeg file using mencoder?
<danny500> anyone>
<danny500> hello?
<danny500> ?
<danny500> help
<BenrA> mencoder -of mpeg -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -o foo.mpg foo.ogm
<danny500> ?
<BenrA> If you want quality and/or DVD compatibility or anything, consult the docs. ;)
<danny500> ok that was confusing
<danny500> file equals = file:///home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man
<danny500> now, rewrite that code so that It'll work
<danny500> well then?
<BenrA> What is your problem?
<housetier> I'd try replacing "foo.ogm" with /home/danny500/Trigun/Trigun%20-%201%20-%20The%20%24%2460%20Billion%20Man (if that is the real file name), and see how far it goes
<danny500> fine then, don't help me, I'll go to a room where I'll actually get help. Fucking assholes
</pre>

<pre>
<crackedboy> hi, can I ask something about kmplayer?
<md`> no
<crackedboy> ok, sorry
<md`> you're forgiven
</pre>

==Mailing lists==

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-cvslog mplayer-cvslog]===

<pre>
> btw, anyone has a copy of the ISO-english spec? ;)

Ok. :)

1. There isn't a spec, since the language hasn't been standardized. All
we have are numerous competing drafts written by independent,
non-authoritative organizations.

2. A large amount of existing English code, such as Shakespeare, is
unparseable by modern English speakers.

3. If an element of the language has been frequently misused over a long
enough period of time, such misuse often becomes acceptable.

4. An English speaker can be considered reasonably feature-complete even
if such speaker only recognizes a small subset of the language.

5. Certain keywords tend to cause internal compiler errors. Such
keywords are known as "profanity", and existing English speakers weakly
attempt to prevent recently-written speakers from being aware of them.

6. English is a highly context dependent. Many keywords, when used in
their own particular context, take on an entirely illogical meaning.
These "idioms" cause compilation errors, especially when an old speaker
is attempting to communicate with a new one.

7. ....

I could go on, but that's enough fun for now. :)
-- Michael Niedermayer and Corey Hickey in mplayer-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-dev-eng mplayer-dev-eng]===

<pre>
Without a frontend, mplayer is useless.
-- Jean-Philippe Guillemin in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about alsa resampler]
Now why on earth would anyone want to use this crap?? It's only
configurable between two extremes of sucking: very bad quality, or
very bad performance.
-- Rich Felker in mplayer-dev-eng at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/mplayer-users mplayer-users]===

<pre>
> > yes, video decoding is not perfect either so even if u decode the bitstream u
> > loose quality (idct inaccuracies and such) so u should really use a hexeditor
> > instead of mplayer to view ur movies
>
> Perhaps we could rewrite xmatrix so it takes its input from AVI
> files...

"Do you always look at it encoded?"

"Well ya have to. The video codecs work FOR the construct program. But
there's way too much information to decode this DIVX. You get used to
it -- I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette,
redhead..."
-- Michael Niedermayer, Moritz Bunkus and D Richard Felker III in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
>>> Is there any possibility to convert a Ream Media video stream to
>>> ogg/theora video?
>>
>> no, ogg is banned for good from the list of possible outputs for
>> manifest insanity
>
> Thank you for your answer, but can you be more specific?

ogg is by far the most insane mux format ever conceived,
thus no conscious coder wants to permit to give birth to an abomination
like that
-- Marek Mahut and Nico Sabbi in mplayer users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> > > 1. ok, true, I wanted to say mad TAG right ? How can I get this
> > > to MP3 tag ?
> >
> > There is no such thing as a MAD tag. MAD only plays MP1/MP2/MP3.
> > Your file has to have one of those as the audio track for MAD to be
> > able to play it at all. You also didn't read the rest of my post.
>
> MAD audio codec then ?

...

I'd love to help, but I have to go bang my head against that wall over
there...
-- wim delvaux and RC in mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog ffmpeg-cvslog]===

<pre>
>> I'm sure Michael knows how to capitalize and punctuate at
>> least a little bit.
> thats defamation, ive never capitalized and punktuated correctly
> besides that i dont like pure capitalism ;)
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO WRITE LIKE THIS.
-- Måns Rullgård and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-cvslog at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

===[http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel ffmpeg-devel]===

<pre>
> All right, new screening process for prospective FFmpeg contributors:
> "Are you now, or have you ever been, a Microsoft Visual C++ user?"
> There's going to be scandal when the oversight committee investigates my
> employment history.
If you used msvc on your day job it doesn't count, as long as you really hated it.
-- Mike Melanson and Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
> patching file configure
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 914.
> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
Ah, yes, the swift evolution of ffmpeg made the patch obsolete in 24h.
-- Måns Rullgård and Víctor Paesa in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about the lack of "chained ogg" support]
I'm aware of this problem, and I've been trying to think of a
solution. The more I think about it, the more it appears as an
abomination. Just like everything Ogg related. No surprises there.
-- Måns Rullgård in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
not everything from OO is necessarily bad, like not everything from M$
is necessarily bad, if later where the case M$ would gone bankrupt long
ago ...
but thats geting deeply off topic, lets rather concentrate on flames and
insults ...
-- Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[Marco Gerards submits a THP demuxer]
Coooool. I have hundreds of THP files. I will find some that have sound
and get them posted soon. In the meantime, Niedermayer will be along
shortly to tear apart your patch. Good luck! :)
-- Mike Melanson in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
[about SwScaler rewrite]
> > And then we can call an architecture dependent init function that can
> > overide the C behavior much like is done for the dsputils.
> I was thinking about that too
thinking is good patch is better ...
-- Marc Hoffman, Luca Barbato and Michael Niedermayer in ffmpeg-devel at mplayerhq.hu
</pre>

<pre>
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
>
> Oh, and the image of my RE drawing is up as well :-) :
> http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvhe/LZODraw_bw.png

Thank goodness your coding skills are better than your handwriting ;)

Diego
</pre>

===other===

<pre>
i've remembered i have root access at new mphq, but probably
it was just a dream :)))
-- A'rpi
</pre>

FFmpeg codec HOWTO

2006-06-01T14:53:14Z

Poirierg: /* The Glue codec template */

This page is meant as an introduction to the internal codec API in [[FFmpeg]].
It will also show how the codecs are connected with the demuxers. This is by
no means a complete guide but enough to understand how to add a codec to FFmpeg.
Cook is used as an example throughout.

== libavcodec/avcodec.h ==
The first thing to look at is the AVCodec struct.

typedef struct AVCodec {
const char *name;
enum CodecType type;
enum CodecID id;
int priv_data_size;
int (*init)(AVCodecContext *);
int (*encode)(AVCodecContext *, uint8_t *buf, int buf_size, void *data);
int (*close)(AVCodecContext *);
int (*decode)(AVCodecContext *, void *outdata, int *outdata_size,
uint8_t *buf, int buf_size);
int capabilities;
struct AVCodec *next;
void (*flush)(AVCodecContext *);
const AVRational *supported_framerates; ///array of supported framerates, or NULL if any, array is terminated by {0,0}
const enum PixelFormat *pix_fmts; ///array of supported pixel formats, or NULL if unknown, array is terminanted by -1
} AVCodec;

Here we can see that we have some elements to name the codec, what type it is (audio/video), the supported pixel formats and some function
pointers for init/encode/decode and close. Now lets see how it is used.

== libavcodec/cook.c ==
If we look in this file at the bottom we can see this code:

AVCodec cook_decoder =
{
.name = "cook",
.type = CODEC_TYPE_AUDIO,
.id = CODEC_ID_COOK,
.priv_data_size = sizeof(COOKContext),
.init = cook_decode_init,
.close = cook_decode_close,
.decode = cook_decode_frame,
};

First we get an AVCodec struct named cook_decoder. And then we set the variables of cook_decoder. Note that we only set the variables that are needed. Currently there is no encoder so we don't set any. If we now look at the id variable we can see that CODEC_ID_COOK isn't defined in libavcodec/cook.c. It is declared in avcodec.h.

== libavcodec/avcodec.h ==

Here we will find the CodecID enumeration.

enum CodecID {
...
CODEC_ID_GSM,
CODEC_ID_QDM2,
CODEC_ID_COOK,
CODEC_ID_TRUESPEECH,
CODEC_ID_TTA,
...
};

CODEC_ID_COOK is there in the list. This is the list of all supported codecs in FFmpeg, the list is fixed and used internally to id every codec. Changing the order would break binary compatibility.

This is all enough to declare a codec. Now we must register them for internal use also. This is done at runtime.

== libavcodec/allcodecs.c ==
In this file we have the avcodec_register_all() function, it has entries like this for all codecs.

...
#ifdef CONFIG_COOK_DECODER
register_avcodec(&cook_decoder);
#endif //CONFIG_COOK_DECODER
...

The register_avcodec() call registers a codec for internal use.
The defines around the register call are used so it is possible to not compile the decoder code for a specific codec.
But what defines CONFIG_COOK_DECODER? This is extracted by configure with this command line:

grep 'register_avcodec(&[a-z]' libavcodec/allcodecs.c | sed 's/.*&$.*$).*/\1/'

So adding a register_avcodec(&new_decoder) entry in allcodecs.c and reconfigure is enough to add the needed define.
One more thing to note is that cook.c isn't included in allcodecs.c so the symbol cook_decoder can't be
found. Thus it has to be declared somewhere, that happens in avcodec.h and it is declared as an external symbol.

Now we have everything to hookup a codec now we will see how the codec. For this we look into libavformat.

== libavformat/rm.c ==
If we think of an imaginary rm file that ffmpeg is about to process, the first thing that happens is that it is identified
as a rm file. It is passed on to the rm demuxer (rm.c). The rm demuxer looks through the file and finds out that it is a
cook file.

...
} else if (!strcmp(buf, "cook")) {
st->codec->codec_id = CODEC_ID_COOK;
...

Now ffmpeg knows what codec to init and where to send the payload from the container. So back to cook.c and the initialization process.

== libavcodec/cook.c Init ==
After ffmpeg knows what codec to use, it calls the declared initialization function pointer declared in the codecs AVCodec struct. In
cook.c it is called cook_decode_init. Here we setup as much as we can before we start decoding. The following things should be handled in the init, vlc table initialization, table generation, memory allocation and extradata parsing.

== libavcodec/cook.c Close ==
The cook_decode_close function is the codec clean-up call. All memory, vlc tables, etc. should be freed here.

== libavcodec/cook.c Decode ==
In cook.c the name of the decode call is cook_decode_frame.

static int cook_decode_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx,
void *data, int *data_size,
uint8_t *buf, int buf_size) {
...

The function has 5 arguments:
* avctx is a pointer to a AVCodecContext
* data is the pointer to the outbuffer
* data_size is a variable that should be set to the outbuffer size in bytes
* buf is the pointer to the inbuffer
* buf_size is the size of the inbuffer

The decode function shall return the amount of bytes consumed from the inbuffer.

That's how it works without too much detail.

== The Glue codec template ==
As an example, the imaginary Glue audio codec will serve as a base to show bitstream reading, vlc decoding and other things.
The code is purely fictional and sometime uses things just with the purpose of showing them. No try to guard against faulty
data is done.

The Glue codec follows.

/* First we include some default includes */
#include <math.h>
#include <stddef.h>
#include <stdio.h>

/* The following includes have the bitstream reader, various dsp functions and the various defaults */
#define ALT_BITSTREAM_READER
#include "avcodec.h"
#include "bitstream.h"
#include "dsputil.h"

/* This includes the tables needed for the Glue codec template */
#include "gluedata.h"

/* Here we declare the struct used for the codec private data */
typedef struct {
GetBitContext gb;
FFTContext fft_ctx;
VLC vlc_table;
MDCTContext mdct_ctx;
float* sample_buffer;
} GLUEContext;

/* The init function */
static int glue_decode_init(AVCodecContext *avctx)
{
GLUEContext *q = avctx->priv_data;

/* This imaginary codec uses one fft, one mdct and one vlc table. */
ff_mdct_init(&q->mdct_ctx, 10, 1); // 2^10 == size of mdct, 1 == inverse mdct
ff_fft_init(&q->fft_ctx, 9, 1); // 2^9 == size of fft, 0 == inverse fft
init_vlc (&q->vlc_table, 9, 24,
vlctable_huffbits, 1, 1,
vlctable_huffcodes, 2, 2, 0); // look in bitstream.h for the meaning of the arguments

/* We also need to allocate a sample buffer */
q->sample_buffer = av_mallocz(sizeof(float)*1024); // here we used av_mallocz instead of av_malloc
// av_mallocz memsets the whole buffer to 0

/* Check if the allocation was successful */
if(q->sample_buffer == NULL)
return -1;

/* return 0 for a successful init, -1 for failure */
return 0;
}

/* This is the main decode function */
static int cook_decode_frame(AVCodecContext *avctx,
void *data, int *data_size,
uint8_t *buf, int buf_size)
{
COOKContext *q = avctx->priv_data;
int16_t *outbuffer = data;

/* We know since be fore what the arguments for this function are
now we just have to decode this imaginary codec, the made up
bitstream format is as follows:
12 bits amount of samples
1 bit fft or mdct coded coeffs, 0 for fft/1 for mdct
read 13 bits amount of vlc coded fft data coeffs
read 10 bits amount of vlc coded mdct data coeffs
(...coeffs...)
32 bits the hex value 0x12345678, used for integrity check
*/

/* Declare the needed variables */
int samples, coeffs, i, fft;
float mdct_tmp[1024];

/* Now we init the bitstream reader, we start at the beginning of the inbuffer */
init_get_bits(&q->gb, buf, buf_size*8); //the buf_size is in bytes but we need bits

/* Now we take 12 bits to get the amount of samples the current frame has */
samples = get_bits(q->gb,12);

/* Now we check if we have fft or mdct coeffs */
fft = get_bits1(q->gb);
if (fft) {
//fft coeffs, get how many
coeffs = get_bits(q->gb,13);
} else {
//mdct coeffs, get how many
coeffs = get_bits(q->gb,10);
}

/* Now decode the vlc coded coeffs to the sample_buffer */
for (i=0 ; i<coeffs ; i++)
q->sample_buffer[i] = get_vlc2(&q->gb, q->vlc_table.table,vlc_table.bits,3); //read about the arguments in bitstream.h

/* Now we need to transform the coeffs to samples */
if (fft) {
//The fft is done inplace
ff_fft_permute(&q->fft_ctx, (FFTComplex *) q->sample_buffer);
ff_fft_calc (&q->fft_ctx, (FFTComplex *) q->sample_buffer);
} else {
//And we pretend that the mdct is also inplace
ff_imdct_calc(&q->mdct_ctx, q->sample_buffer, q->sample_buffer, mdct_tmp);
}

/* To make it easy the stream can only be 16bits mono, so lets convert it to that */
for (i=0 ; i<samples ; i++)
outbuffer[i] = (int16_t)q->sample_buffer[i];

/* Report how many samples we got */
*data_size = samples;

/* Check if the buffer was consumed ok */
if (get_bits(q->gb,32) != 0x12345678) {
av_log(avctx,AV_LOG_ERROR,"Stream error, integrity check failed!\n");
return -1;
}

/* Return the amount of bytes consumed if everything was ok */
return *data_size*sizeof(int16_t);
}

/* the uninit function, here we just do the inverse of the init */
static int glue_decode_close(AVCodecContext *avctx)
{
GLUEContext *q = avctx->priv_data;

/* Free allocated memory buffer */
av_free(q->sample_buffer);

/* Free the fft transform */
ff_fft_end(&q->fft_ctx);

/* Free the mdct transform */
ff_mdct_end(&q->mdct_ctx);

/* Free the vlc table */
free_vlc(&q->vlc_table);

/* Return 0 if everything is ok, -1 if not */
return 0;
}

AVCodec glue_decoder =
{
.name = glue
.type = CODEC_TYPE_AUDIO,
.id = CODEC_ID_GLUE,
.priv_data_size = sizeof(GLUEContext),
.init = glue_decode_init,
.close = glue_decode_close,
.decode = glue_decode_frame,
};

FFmpeg codec HOWTO

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FFmpeg codec HOWTO

2006-05-29T14:57:50Z

Poirierg: /* libavcodec/avcodec.h */